LH Transaxle output seal (5 speed)

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    <TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2><TABLE width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-TOP: 4px" vAlign=top colSpan=2>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]LH Transaxle output seal (5 speed)<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

    [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]November 23 2000 at 1:07 PM[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<SCRIPT language=Javascript> <!-- var n54_em; n54_em = ""; n54_em = n54_em + "k";n54_em = n54_em + "f";n54_em = n54_em + "i";n54_em = n54_em + "s";n54_em = n54_em + "k";n54_em = n54_em + "e";n54_em = n54_em + "@";n54_em = n54_em + "a";n54_em = n54_em + "y";n54_em = n54_em + "e";n54_em = n54_em + ".";n54_em = n54_em + "n";n54_em = n54_em + "e";n54_em = n54_em + "t"; document.write("Kelly Fiske"); // --> </SCRIPT>Kelly Fiske <NOSCRIPT></NOSCRIPT> [/FONT]</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=bottom colSpan=3><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Hello all,
    After shaking down my 87 X1/9, I have discovered an oil leak at the left(drivers)side transaxle output seal. My car has the drivelines with the 6 allen bolts on each end. I have no problems in removing the driveline, but how does one go about pulling the output hub to change the seal? I did notice there are 5 or 6 bolts on the flange (that the seal resides in) just behind the hub. Any instructions would be greatly appreciated.
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    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 15px" vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->CV Stub shaft removal<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

    [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]November 23 2000, 3:22 PM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 15px">
    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->The proper methood of removing the CV stub shafts is with a slide hammer. Fiat had a special adapter for a slide hammer that bolted to the flange. I made my own by using a piece of plate steel. I drilled three holes to bolt it to the flange where the CV would normally bolt and then drilled a center hole to accomodate the shaft of the slide hammer. I put a nut and large washer behind the plate. Three or four good pops with the slide should yank it right out. If they have ever been out before they will be much easier to remove.

    The four bolts behind the flange do not have any function in retaining the CV stub shaft. The stub shafts are retained by a snap ring inside the differential.

    Once you have the stub shaft out, a seal puller can be used to remove the seal. A large socket or seal driver should be used to install the new seal.

    To refit the stub shaft, slide the shaft into the differential until the snap ring hits the diff. Then place a block of wood against the CV flange and drive it home with a large hammer.

    You will want to clean the area around the stub shaft with brake clean and drain the gearbox before you begin. Also, clean the heads of the allen screws before attempting to remove them, they are easily stripped if your bit does not bottom out in the head.

    Steve
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    [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]November 23 2000, 11:26 PM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 15px">
    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Hello Kelly,
    If you haven't come up with a slide hammer arrangement...here is an easy one. Allthread, nuts, washers, suitable drilled plate, original allens, and a drift. Some turkey used a chisel to drive these out originally on a prior rebuild. Uncalled for in my opinion. The use of a slidehammer will put an amazing amount of pull or tension on the stub axle. Even if the first time out. Depends on how much sliding mass you want to add to the all thread and of course the travel and speed. Easy tool to build. This one's kinda rough but it didn't need made any fancier. Good luck. And thanks Steve for step by step Tranny 101 that facilitated creating the tool as part of the rebuild process. http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1308543&a=9715543&p=33856940 lezesig ('79 awaiting tranny bearings!)
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    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 30px" vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->CV hub removal<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

    [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]November 24 2000, 5:31 AM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 30px">
    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Thanks much gentlemen!
    It looks quite straight forward. I should be able to make a slide hammer arrangement with some odds and ends laying around the garage.
    Best Regards <!-- google_ad_section_end -->

    [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial] [/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top noWrap align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][​IMG] [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top noWrap width="17.9%">[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<SCRIPT language=Javascript> <!-- var n54_em; n54_em = ""; n54_em = n54_em + "s";n54_em = n54_em + "t";n54_em = n54_em + "e";n54_em = n54_em + "v";n54_em = n54_em + "e";n54_em = n54_em + "l";n54_em = n54_em + "@";n54_em = n54_em + "s";n54_em = n54_em + "d";n54_em = n54_em + "l";n54_em = n54_em + ".";n54_em = n54_em + "c";n54_em = n54_em + "o";n54_em = n54_em + "n";n54_em = n54_em + "t";n54_em = n54_em + "i";n54_em = n54_em + "n";n54_em = n54_em + "e";n54_em = n54_em + "t";n54_em = n54_em + ".";n54_em = n54_em + "c";n54_em = n54_em + "o";n54_em = n54_em + "m"; document.write("Steven Lawson"); // --> </SCRIPT>Steven Lawson <NOSCRIPT></NOSCRIPT>[/FONT]
    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 45px" vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->not needed on one side<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

    [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]November 24 2000, 8:44 AM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 45px">
    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->One side has bolts directly behind the threads in the axle (the side that needs to be removed first in 5-speed 101). I removed it by threading in long bolts on opposite sides until they bottomed out on the bolt heads. Then, little turns on each side drew it out.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

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    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 60px" vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->OK, Here's what I did<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

    [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]November 26 2000, 7:54 AM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 60px">
    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->First off, thanks for all the suggestions. Working with Steven's suggestion, I was fortunate, in that I needed to pull the left side hub. On the left side, directly behind the hub is a flange with 4 bolts. They are directly in line with the 6 axle bolt holes. I simply took two long threaded bolts and using them as a puller, ran them through the hub up against 2 of the 4 flange bolt heads. A few even turns of both bolts EASILY popped the hub out of the case. Now, if this process is to be performed on the right side, I would have used the slide hammer routine, as there is no bolted flange behind the hub to run bolts against. Thanks again, folks!
    Kelly Fiske
    78 Spider
    87 X1/9
    Georgetown, IN<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

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    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 75px" vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Wow! This forum really pays off!<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

    [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]November 26 2000, 11:48 AM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 75px">
    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->It would appear though, a slide hammer would be pretty easy to use on the right side with more room and all.

    What a NEAT trick though... goes ta show ya... ya gotta think OUTSIDE the proverbial "box" when ya work on these cars!


    Tony<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

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    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 45px" vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Cheap to buy a slide hammer<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

    [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]November 24 2000, 8:06 PM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 45px">
    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->I bought a big kahuna slide hammer for $5 at a used tool store. Gotta lotta derelict trannies to disassemble. Still looking for reasonably priced big kahuna snap ring pliers!<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

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    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 60px" vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Untitled<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

    [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]November 24 2000, 10:43 PM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 60px">
    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Tired of the light stamped metal snap ring plies Mike ?
    I cussed mine one too many times several years ago and bit the bullet and got the Kahuna 'craftsmans'. Chuckle everytime I use em. So much better to use the Kahuna than the cheaper light pliers...wondered why I put up with them so long. Don't know if your local Sears still offers them but these have green colored vinyl grips and a threaded knurled pinch bolt on the pivot point. Never have come close to snapping the ends off. How many trannies you have on the bench then ???????????
    lezesig('79 awaiting tranny bearings !)<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

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    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 60px" vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->twangggggggg (as it flies into a black hole)<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

    [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]November 24 2000, 10:45 PM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 60px">
    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Tired of the light stamped metal snap ring plies Mike ?
    I cussed mine one too many times several years ago and bit the bullet and got the Kahuna 'craftsmans'. Chuckle everytime I use em. So much better to use the Kahuna than the cheaper light pliers...wondered why I put up with them so long. Don't know if your local Sears still offers them but these have green colored vinyl grips and a threaded knurled pinch bolt on the pivot point. Never have come close to snapping the ends off. How many trannies you have on the bench then ???????????
    lezesig('79 awaiting tranny bearings !)<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

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