Rusted Out 1970 850 Spider Fix-Up

Discussion in 'Rear-Engine Fiats' started by Daniel Gibson, Apr 30, 2019.

  1. Daniel Gibson

    Daniel Gibson True Classic

    Location:
    Texas
    I forgot about the battery box hole! Probably willful self-delusion. Let us build a battery box!

    The pit of despair.
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    10.5 by 7.5 inches. I will go up 4 inches on the side so that there is un-rusted metal for me to weld to. Here is what I cut out. I then proceeded to the bending tool. It is coming in handy.
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    After bending, a test fit. Not bad!
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    All welded up and drilled for installation. The bent piece goes in the back.
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    Success! I will repaint everything later...just trying to keep it from rusting. All told, about two hours work, and I think it will work just fine.
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    Now what to do about this? I could probably patch up the front and make it useable, but I don't think I could get rid of all of the little rust holes. Maybe I don't. If someone raises it, then they will see it is genuine fiat! What do y'all think?
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  2. Chad C.

    Chad C. True Classic

    Location:
    Eugene, Oregon
    I suspect it'd feel like cheating to get someone to sell you a workable trunk lid?
     
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  3. Daniel Gibson

    Daniel Gibson True Classic

    Location:
    Texas
    That is kinda how I am feeling! Lol!
     
  4. kmead

    kmead Old enough to know better

    Location:
    Michigan
    You might consider a few drain holes and dimpling around them in the battery box. Water gets in there by relative intent due to the way the rest of the area is designed. Also go up underneath to put seam sealer around the bottom edges of the old metal where it meets the new metal.

    I would buy a better hood.
     
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  5. NM850

    NM850 True Classic

    Location:
    Albuquerque NM
  6. Daniel Gibson

    Daniel Gibson True Classic

    Location:
    Texas
    Good idea. I will get some holes drilled later today.
     
  7. Daniel Gibson

    Daniel Gibson True Classic

    Location:
    Texas
  8. Frank L. Di Gioia

    Frank L. Di Gioia True Classic

    Location:
    las vegas, nevada
    Keep posting! I like the paired "before" and "after" pics the most. As everyone else has said "it's the journey, not the destination."
     
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  9. Daniel Gibson

    Daniel Gibson True Classic

    Location:
    Texas
    Frank, me too. This one is for us!

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    And happy Fathers Day to all the proud pappas out there!
     
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  10. Daniel Gibson

    Daniel Gibson True Classic

    Location:
    Texas
    Well, I think I have to throw in the towel on the hood. I did some cutting on it today, and there is just nothing left to work with. Bummer.

    On the positive side, I did get the accelerator cable lubricated and moving today. First step towards getting it to start!

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  11. tomnj

    tomnj Old fogie stogie

    Location:
    Scotch Plains, NJ
    Awesome! I need to put a new battery tray in like that on my 66 coupe. It seems like the first thing that rusts on these cars.
     
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  12. Daniel Gibson

    Daniel Gibson True Classic

    Location:
    Texas
    Ordered up a hood from eBay today. 200 bucks with free shipping. Even though I will have to do a little work on it, that seemed like a pretty good deal.

    I decided to start going around the car and knocking out some of the bodywork rust. I need to go buy a can of body filler as well. I patched up a hole I had cut in the drivers quarter some time ago, and decided to get going on the door.

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    Here is what it looks like after the hole was cut. Since it gave me access to one of the window rollers, I decided to see if I could make the window work. Amazing, especially since one of the cables rusted in half, I was able to work these wheels loose and put the window up and down! Happy day!
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    Here is the full picture of the holes I cut and the window down! It seems so sporty!
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    Now I need to read up on replacing these cables and to start looking into pulling the steering column. And bodywork of course! And tending to this blister I got today.
     
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  13. NM850

    NM850 True Classic

    Location:
    Albuquerque NM
    Oh the dreaded cables....I have fought those. I did finally get the window to work as intended.
    If you need the routing diagrams I can try to find them, there are some incorrect ones floating around the internet.
     
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  14. Daniel Gibson

    Daniel Gibson True Classic

    Location:
    Texas
    I am staring at a diagram now...I will ping you if I cannot figure it out based on this. Thanks!
     
  15. Daniel Gibson

    Daniel Gibson True Classic

    Location:
    Texas
    Ugh. Three hours spent working on that freaking window cable today. Sometimes I am dense. Finally got it all figured out, put the window down once or twice and the end of the cable popped out of the crank. #^{%}£#!!!

    Oh well, wrap it up tomorrow. Should be easier now.
     
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  16. NM850

    NM850 True Classic

    Location:
    Albuquerque NM
    On a 124 with electric windows I decided to just replace the cable since the motor was fine and I didn’t want to spend the ridiculous money they are asking for the whole unit. Bought the cable at Ace.
    Took me 17 times to get it right. Talk about a lesson in building patience....
     
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  17. Daniel Gibson

    Daniel Gibson True Classic

    Location:
    Texas
    Yup, that sounds about right! Gonna try again tonight.
     
  18. JimD

    JimD Waiting for Godot... Moderator

    Location:
    Missouri, USA
    Window cables? WINDOW CABLES!?!?!?!?! Come on Daniel, I don't think you need no stinkin' window cables just to be able to drive it once!! Talk about "scope creep". :cool::p:D;)

    Impressive work so far. :)
     
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  19. Daniel Gibson

    Daniel Gibson True Classic

    Location:
    Texas
    Hahah! I seriously considered taking them out and making it a roadster, or attaching straps to the bottom and pull them up the 1920/ way. But this is an Italian puzzle for me, and complete it I must!

    Speaking of which, the drivers window now goes up and down. Since I cannot upload a movie, you will have to supply the soundtrack of squeaks and creaks yourself. It is almost as if the Italians designed this to fail.

    Up
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    Down
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    Taadaa! Now back to bodywork. And Jim, thank you for the compliment.
     
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  20. Daniel Gibson

    Daniel Gibson True Classic

    Location:
    Texas
    Oh, each window takes almost exactly 10 FEET OF CABLE! Almost as long as the car!
     
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