Dr.Jeff
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Excellent job Darin, thanks. If anyone is interested in seeing how the guy made these snorkels, then go to the video at the 3:00 mark. There are a couple more photos showing a bit of the build process. I like them.
Side vents/ducts, and now Snorkels!
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Dr.Jeff
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Thanks Ulix. I like the large, flat front air dams on some of these examples. They carry back to the style of that era and suggest a similar nose to cars like the 944 Porsche, Testarossa, Lotus Esprit, etc.
dcioccarelli
Dominic Cioccarelli
Hmm, none of them is really to my taste (the black one is particularly over the top) but I do admit that the larger flying buttresses (on the Testarossa body kit) do look good. I'm wondering why these are kept quite small on an X1/9 while they are much bigger, for example, on a Lancia Montecarlo. I suppose it would impair rearward vision somewhat.
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Dr.Jeff
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Lately I've been thinking about the X's side air scoops again. And I came across a listing for the Toyota MR2 aftermarket scoops. They are a cross between a "snorkel" and a "scoop" I guess. But I wonder how difficult it would be to fit these on the X? I'm not saying that I prefer the style, just curious how close they might fit after seeing the pictures in the listing:
https://www.ebay.com/c/647706847
https://www.ebay.com/c/647706847
Dr.Jeff
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I like the way you routed the air ducts through the side pillars rather than around them.
And the mention of a bike engine sure peaks my interest.
Janis
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Haven’t You attached images that din’t suppose to attach?
My bad, thanks. Was posting from my phone ...lol. I am trying to delete now.
Ok, I need help to delete the last 3 pics that are unrelated to this thread, can't seem to do it without deleting the entire post. Thanks.
Dr.Jeff
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I believe if you go to "edit", then select "more options", it will bring up the pics' attachments and you can delete them.
DanielForest
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Mazda RX8 seats?
Yes, stripped of their frames, fabbing new frames to make them work. Bought them last year when the local Pull a part had their half off seats sale. Can't beat $27.00 per pair.
Thank you so much.
DanielForest
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Gee! Great deal! Are you happy with them?
Hybridfiat
Power costs money, more power cost more money
Looks like the breathing hole of some slimy invertebrate.All I can contribute to the discussion is what NOT to do, i.e. emulate the MGF look:
Bjorn Nilson
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As I stated before, I think snorkel is a bad idea on our cars unless maybe used for cold air intake. For general cooling in engine bay I believe it works against the natural air flow. However, I found a couple of photos that may inspire some of you. -Would require some shaping, tubing and plumming, but that is obviously not stopping some people in this forum
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fiatfactory
Steve Cecchele
I did a little research this last week on scoops and air ducting, seeing as I'm building a lemons racer, I thought I might as well optimise the intake air.
Now when it comes to aerodymnamics, car guys are usually quite crap... trolling for info via car related forums / information was a total waste of time... the only places I found information that was factual and understandable, was in the aeronautic field. Fortunately there are lots of clever people who will share their knowledge and learning, and one of the best reads I found all week was this guy.
www.kitplanes.com
anyway, based on absolutely no money to spend on ths section os the intake, I'm forced to scrounge my used parts shelves to find something suitable.
An old and slightly damaged left side vent, a damaged insde right hand duct, and a 100mm to 50mm offset reducer plumbimg fitting from the hardware store for $2.98... a few hours of time to grind / cut to get things to fit together.
an air filter box from a Fiat with EFI (I think a Fiat Spyder would be very similar, and this is what the duct and air filter box will look like installed. The air filter box sitts up behind the rear window behind the drivers head, the lemons car will not be using the stock engine cover.
The hose from the 50mm plumbing fitting is a fuel filler hose from a lancia, it's 55mm ID, it nicely takes the intake from the round form to the oval form that the air filter box has, outlet from the filter box is 75mm ID rubber pipe.
If you read the article I linked to you'll get the math / physics behind it (pressure recovery) and with the duct to airbox sizing I'm hoping to achieve an actual pressure increase in the whole intake system (ram charging) as well as also going for a little Hemholtz effect with the large Plenum I'm using over the carby.
SteveC
Now when it comes to aerodymnamics, car guys are usually quite crap... trolling for info via car related forums / information was a total waste of time... the only places I found information that was factual and understandable, was in the aeronautic field. Fortunately there are lots of clever people who will share their knowledge and learning, and one of the best reads I found all week was this guy.
Optimizing Induction Air
Fine-tuning intake system runners for increased performance and economy.
www.kitplanes.com
anyway, based on absolutely no money to spend on ths section os the intake, I'm forced to scrounge my used parts shelves to find something suitable.
An old and slightly damaged left side vent, a damaged insde right hand duct, and a 100mm to 50mm offset reducer plumbimg fitting from the hardware store for $2.98... a few hours of time to grind / cut to get things to fit together.
an air filter box from a Fiat with EFI (I think a Fiat Spyder would be very similar, and this is what the duct and air filter box will look like installed. The air filter box sitts up behind the rear window behind the drivers head, the lemons car will not be using the stock engine cover.
The hose from the 50mm plumbing fitting is a fuel filler hose from a lancia, it's 55mm ID, it nicely takes the intake from the round form to the oval form that the air filter box has, outlet from the filter box is 75mm ID rubber pipe.
If you read the article I linked to you'll get the math / physics behind it (pressure recovery) and with the duct to airbox sizing I'm hoping to achieve an actual pressure increase in the whole intake system (ram charging) as well as also going for a little Hemholtz effect with the large Plenum I'm using over the carby.
SteveC
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lookforjoe
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I did a little research this last week on scoops and air ducting, seeing as I'm building a lemons racer, I thought I might as well optimise the intake air.
Now when it comes to aerodymnamics, car guys are usually quite crap... trolling for info via car related forums / information was a total waste of time... the only places I found information that was factual and understandable, was in the aeronautic field. Fortunately there are lots of clever people who will share their knowledge and learning, and one of the best reads I found all week was this guy.
Optimizing Induction Air
Fine-tuning intake system runners for increased performance and economy.
anyway, based on absolutely no money to spend on ths section os the intake, I'm forced to scrounge my used parts shelves to find something suitable.
An old and slightly damaged left side vent, a damaged insde right hand duct, and a 100mm to 50mm offset reducer plumbimg fitting from the hardware store for $2.98... a few hours of time to grind / cut to get things to fit together.
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an air filter box from a Fiat with EFI (I think a Fiat Spyder would be very similar, and this is what the duct and air filter box will look like installed. The air filter box sitts up behind the rear window behind the drivers head, the lemons car will not be using the stock engine cover.
View attachment 37572
The hose from the 50mm plumbing fitting is a fuel filler hose from a lancia, it's 55mm ID, it nicely takes the intake from the round form to the oval form that the air filter box has, outlet from the filter box is 75mm ID rubber pipe.
If you read the article I linked to you'll get the math / physics behind it (pressure recovery) and with the duct to airbox sizing I'm hoping to achieve an actual pressure increase in the whole intake system (ram charging) as well as also going for a little Hemholtz effect with the large Plenum I'm using over the carby.
View attachment 37574
SteveC
Very cool setup. I'm not sure about the 'ram air' effect though - there was a lengthy topic on the air volume through stock side vents with someone doing actual measurements & it was not impressive to say the least...
