<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2><TABLE width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-TOP: 4px" vAlign=top colSpan=2>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]Them noisy rear wheel bearings!<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]September 6 2001 at 7:54 PM[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<SCRIPT language=Javascript> <!-- var n54_em; n54_em = ""; n54_em = n54_em + "i";n54_em = n54_em + "a";n54_em = n54_em + "n";n54_em = n54_em + "@";n54_em = n54_em + "f";n54_em = n54_em + "r";n54_em = n54_em + "s";n54_em = n54_em + "i";n54_em = n54_em + "t";n54_em = n54_em + "o";n54_em = n54_em + ".";n54_em = n54_em + "o";n54_em = n54_em + "r";n54_em = n54_em + "g";n54_em = n54_em + ".";n54_em = n54_em + "n";n54_em = n54_em + "z"; document.write("ian lawson"); // --> </SCRIPT>ian lawson <NOSCRIPT> ian lawson </NOSCRIPT> [/FONT]</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=bottom colSpan=3><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->After thinking that the gradually increasing rumble coming from the LHR corner of my 1978 Exxy 1300 was really only tyre noise (Michelins are always noisy, aren't they?), I have now discovered that the wheel bearing on that corner is shot - no rocking movement but sure is rumbling. Sounds like a job for this weekend coming up! I have been searching thru the archives of this Forum (good old Stephen Lawson seems to be "the full bottle" on this subject)and have 2 questions: 1. what are the chances of re-using that big $28US ($60NZ!) locking nut that holds the bearing into the carrier? 2. has anyone investigated if there is a non-genuine heavier duty wheel bearing available (e.g. from SKF, FAG bearings, maybe) that will replace the FIAT bearing? IMHO, 50000 miles of careful driving is a bit low for a wheel bearing to give up - yes/no? Any opinions on this very welcome. cheers, ian<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
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[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]September 6 2001, 9:00 PM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 15px">
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[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]September 8 2001, 6:35 AM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 15px">
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Ian,
Check out Chris Obert's website. http://we.got.net/~fiatplus/ He has an article in the tech tip section on changing out the X wheel bearings. It's not the easiest job in the world as you need a press and a special spanner wrench. He has a lot of experience with them and should be able to suggest the best bearing for the job. Good luck.
Kelly<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
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[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]September 9 2001, 1:56 PM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 30px">
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Thanks Warren and Kelly for your advice. Got as far as removing the knuckle assembly from the car - drove out the hub with a nice sized piece of pipe (luckily it wasn't rusted in ) and then got to that nasty locking ringnut. No show of moving it even slightly with light hammering - even after swamping it with WD40 o/nite. It looks pretty fragile too, so I didn't want to hammer it with a pin punch too much. We don't have many FIAT experts down in this part of the world so the likelihood of locating the special tool don't look good! I will contact a local guy here that should be able to help me (I hope!!) cheers, ian<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
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[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]September 16 2001, 5:25 PM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 30px">
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Well, finally got the new bearing in. Located an SKF kit that includes new bearing, modified threaded locking nut (now combined with dust seal), and new nut for the CV joint end. Couldn't find anyone around here with the special spanner for the locking nut, so had to improvise - got a piece of flat 1/4" thick steel wide enough to grind 2 vee's onto the edges and fit tightly between 2 opposing octagonals on the nut. Drilled a hole in the centre to allow a socket extension bar to fit thru - to enable turning the piece of flat steel, and then screwed the locknut down onto the newly pressed in bearing, circulating around using different pairs of octagonals to tighten the nut evenly. Had to estimate 46 lb/ft torque, but must have been close to it! Pressed the drivehub into the bearing (following Ulix's advice on his post)and bingo, job done. Haven't road tested it yet, but it sure feels nice turning the wheel now - no rumbles and no wobbles! cheers, ian<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
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[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]September 6 2001 at 7:54 PM[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<SCRIPT language=Javascript> <!-- var n54_em; n54_em = ""; n54_em = n54_em + "i";n54_em = n54_em + "a";n54_em = n54_em + "n";n54_em = n54_em + "@";n54_em = n54_em + "f";n54_em = n54_em + "r";n54_em = n54_em + "s";n54_em = n54_em + "i";n54_em = n54_em + "t";n54_em = n54_em + "o";n54_em = n54_em + ".";n54_em = n54_em + "o";n54_em = n54_em + "r";n54_em = n54_em + "g";n54_em = n54_em + ".";n54_em = n54_em + "n";n54_em = n54_em + "z"; document.write("ian lawson"); // --> </SCRIPT>ian lawson <NOSCRIPT> ian lawson </NOSCRIPT> [/FONT]</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=bottom colSpan=3><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=3>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->After thinking that the gradually increasing rumble coming from the LHR corner of my 1978 Exxy 1300 was really only tyre noise (Michelins are always noisy, aren't they?), I have now discovered that the wheel bearing on that corner is shot - no rocking movement but sure is rumbling. Sounds like a job for this weekend coming up! I have been searching thru the archives of this Forum (good old Stephen Lawson seems to be "the full bottle" on this subject)and have 2 questions: 1. what are the chances of re-using that big $28US ($60NZ!) locking nut that holds the bearing into the carrier? 2. has anyone investigated if there is a non-genuine heavier duty wheel bearing available (e.g. from SKF, FAG bearings, maybe) that will replace the FIAT bearing? IMHO, 50000 miles of careful driving is a bit low for a wheel bearing to give up - yes/no? Any opinions on this very welcome. cheers, ian<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
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[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]September 6 2001, 9:00 PM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 15px">
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->you need the special tool.<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
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[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]September 8 2001, 6:35 AM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 15px">
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Ian,
Check out Chris Obert's website. http://we.got.net/~fiatplus/ He has an article in the tech tip section on changing out the X wheel bearings. It's not the easiest job in the world as you need a press and a special spanner wrench. He has a lot of experience with them and should be able to suggest the best bearing for the job. Good luck.
Kelly<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
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[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]September 9 2001, 1:56 PM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 30px">
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Thanks Warren and Kelly for your advice. Got as far as removing the knuckle assembly from the car - drove out the hub with a nice sized piece of pipe (luckily it wasn't rusted in ) and then got to that nasty locking ringnut. No show of moving it even slightly with light hammering - even after swamping it with WD40 o/nite. It looks pretty fragile too, so I didn't want to hammer it with a pin punch too much. We don't have many FIAT experts down in this part of the world so the likelihood of locating the special tool don't look good! I will contact a local guy here that should be able to help me (I hope!!) cheers, ian<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
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[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]September 16 2001, 5:25 PM [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 30px">
[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Tahoma, Arial]<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Well, finally got the new bearing in. Located an SKF kit that includes new bearing, modified threaded locking nut (now combined with dust seal), and new nut for the CV joint end. Couldn't find anyone around here with the special spanner for the locking nut, so had to improvise - got a piece of flat 1/4" thick steel wide enough to grind 2 vee's onto the edges and fit tightly between 2 opposing octagonals on the nut. Drilled a hole in the centre to allow a socket extension bar to fit thru - to enable turning the piece of flat steel, and then screwed the locknut down onto the newly pressed in bearing, circulating around using different pairs of octagonals to tighten the nut evenly. Had to estimate 46 lb/ft torque, but must have been close to it! Pressed the drivehub into the bearing (following Ulix's advice on his post)and bingo, job done. Haven't road tested it yet, but it sure feels nice turning the wheel now - no rumbles and no wobbles! cheers, ian<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
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