WantAnX1/9
Stuck in gear, leaking fluids, fire in progress...
Well, I bought my '85 X at Denver Col. 1988,
Why? At that time I really wanted to buy 328,
But, was too expensive,,
Then The God gave me a time,,,
328 and X 1/9...I'm jealous!
Well, I bought my '85 X at Denver Col. 1988,
Why? At that time I really wanted to buy 328,
But, was too expensive,,
Then The God gave me a time,,,
I was first introduced to the X/19 back in 1985 I was 18 years old. All of the cool guys were into muscle cars and ripping up rear tires.
I had a 69 Mercury Cougar at the time. Out one night hanging with my friends a buddy of mine pulls up in a 1984 gold X. his dad just purchased it. It seemed so small next to our American muscle. I said to him ''why would you want to drive something like that''. He said ''lets go for a ride''. That drive is forever etched into my mind. We took turns at what seemed like neck breaking speeds. Any car that I was familiar with at the time would have been rolled as fast as he was taking turns. I never forgot it.
Then while living in the Bay area California 1989. i bought my first X it was an 1983 Bertone VS. It was two tone white on top and black on the bottom with red interior. That was a great car. I never had one issue with it in the three years I had it. I sold it when I needed something more practical at the time.
I never forgot that feeling I had while driving an X. I then got married had three kids. I would regularly go on E-bay and see what X's were available. Although not bringing much money they were still out of my price range. My wife would often come by the computer and say ''what looking at Fiats again''. Then I saw a listing within 25 miles of me. A non runner for 12 years but garage kept. Got it for 825.00 at least I could afford that. I have had it for 2 1/2 years now. Making good progress. new floors, interior, engine rebuild and on. running real good now and puts a big smile on my face every time I drive it.
In my youth, I would read Car and driver and Road and track reviews. I saw all the cars I could never afford, but occasionally there was a review of an affordable sports car. I would read those reviews over and over and eventually pin the review to my bedroom wall. The X was one of those cars. I would look at it daily on the wall and figure someday I could get one. That day came in my senior year of college (1981). I had been working full time for 2 years and saved up the purchase price. I went to the local Fiat/VW dealer and found a ice blue metallic 1980 that had been the "demonstrator" for the dealership. I bought it without a test drive, which surprised the salesman. Then he figured it out, I couldn't get the car out of its parking spot since I had never driven a stick. He laughed his ass off and called the other salesman over, then came out and took me to the back lot for a tutorial. So that was memorable.
Somewhere in my parent's huge pile of photos is one picture of that car. I have no idea where. I drove it for a few years and then wanted something a little bigger. Always regretted that decision. Like many stories here, I got married, had kids, had a mortgage, etc and years of practical cars. In 2003 I told my wife that I may be experiencing the midlife crisis I had always made fun of. The kids were young adults, the house was paid for and I was feeling depressed a lot. I asked if I could have a mid life crisis, she said that would be fine as long as it was inexpensive and didn't involve other women.
I started looking for a hobby car. I had owned 2 1969 Mustangs in college, so I thought that would be a cool car. Then I looked at how much a nice 69 'Stang would cost. Hmmm... remembering my wife's guidelines, I figured it might be safer to bring home another woman. Then I remembered the X and wondered if there were even any around anymore. You certainly didn't see them on the road here in STL. Through the magic of the innerwebz, I found a one owner 78 in Atascedero, CA on Hemmings. Here are the pictures from the ad:
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I was hooked again. $2500 for the car and $900 to get it back to STL on a truck. My wife approved. Fortunately, my sister lives in Burbank and was able to round up a stick driving buddy to get the car back to Burbank and eventually onto the truck. Here are the pictures of their adventure and finally the car on her street waiting for pickup:
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The seller and I talked a lot as we completed the deal and as the car made its way to me. The day before my sister picked the car up, he told me he had 2 tops for the car and would send them both as he had no use for the second top anymore. I said "Thanks!". When it got here the stock targa was in the frunk and this top was on the car:
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I had no idea what that clear top was, but it was kinda cool. I took it off the car and put it in the back of my wife's van. Anywho... I got in the X at the delivery terminal and it fired up fairly easily. I drove it home with a huge smile on my face as all the memories came flooding back. It was a good day. I still have this 78 and I have also bought and sold a few others over the years. I love the X1/9. I hope to have one (at least one) for a very long time. I wish I could find that one picture of my first 1980.
The reason I bought Gary’s X1/9 I think most here know.
It was 2015, I think. A friend of mine at work just inherited a Corvette and was having issues with the estate. He brought his X1/9 from Naples, Italy and couldn’t get the water pump installed. The X was just sitting in his garage collecting dust. He had offers for the X but knew they were going to sell the parts off of it. He didn’t want that and ask how much I had and I said “500”. He said come and pick it up.
My son Gary fell completely in love with it and that is why I keep it too.
So I purchased Gary’s X1/9 because it was 500 dollars. I was actually looking for a muscle car to restore but the X1/9 fell into my lap. Been a love hate relationship ever since.
Mike
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Even if I could afford a Ferrari, Id still have an X, too
This is an interesting thread to read. I came into the X1/9 world slowly. Growing up with a dad who had moved to the US from France as an adult, having some sort of European second car in the family (first car was a station wagon) was normal, so the funky nuances, odors, etc. of European cars have always been a sort of comfort thing for me (maybe in the same way that the smell of diesel exhaust always reminds me of the long trips visiting family in France as a kid...go figure). So, I guess I never really subscribed to a real prejudice one way or the other about Fiats in general, but my own observation of X1/9s was that they presented as cool, but rather trashy sports cars. I should elaborate. What I mean is that I don't recall ever really seeing a "nice" X1/9 until the mid 1990s shortly after I had a 124 Spider (that, btw, WAS trashy) and met my now-old-friend Brett M who already owned his wonderful RHD X1/9. Prior to that, what I always recall seeing was Xs with a headlight up & one down, big rust spots or primer, strange & awkward rear camber problems and generally scruffy cars. Clearly I was living in the wrong part of the world, I realize. At the same time, my impression of other Fiats was really no better, but I had always liked the 124 Spider and having had a friend in high school with one, I ended up getting one thinking it would be a fun $800 car that I would drive until one day I'd be compelled to remove the license plate & leave it abandoned on the side of the road. Instead, what I learned quickly was what I had glossed over massively before...even if poorly maintained & rarely given the proper respect in this country, these were really great driving cars that had hearty & well-designed drivetrains matched with beautiful and oddly ironic bodywork (Pininfarina & Bertone design on cars that at the time could be acquired routinely for prices well below $1500...that's a strange concept when you think about it). So, after a period of seriously enjoying & learning everything there is to know about Fiat twin cams, I fell into a state of serious Fiat enthusiasm. Somewhere along the way, I started a business with a friend doing online Italian car parts & periodically rehabbing (not restoring...just fully assessing & creating solid projects) Fiats. In the process, we were sourcing new parts & buying NOS inventories...the usual stuff (and funny to think it was before Ebay would have been a platform for something like that & at the time I think I was yelled out of Bayless's storefront for suggesting they consider the Internet as a venue for selling car parts). We also had a semi-formal arrangement for the business in that my partner was as much of an X1/9 fan as I was a 124 fan, so each of us had "dibs" on whatever parts we came across for our respective preferences. And, of course, we had the usual banter where he would refer to the 124 Spider as a "chick car" and I would make up something disparaging to say about X1/9s. The nice thing about this experience was that I had to learn a lot about how these cars are put together and generally learn the tricks & nuances that make Fiat ownership fun. A few years into this (late 90s, I guess) I came across a one-owner '81 X1/9 for sale locally & I bought it. (still remember about a month later my at-the-time wife called me at work one day & said, "I went down to the basement to do laundry & I saw this car down there, it says X one nineth on the back...is this yours?" Oops). I started acquiring the "right" parts for that car to make it nice, but ultimately life & other projects sidelined it to become a non-runner time capsule (unmolested 110k mile car with no rust...not bad) that I was lucky enough to sell at a minor profit (who says Italian cars aren't good investments) to fund the purchase of two ridiculously nice 124 Sports in 2007. By this time, the parts business & anything associated was long defunct and I still had a huge stash of NOS X1/9 parts from god-knows-where that I spent a bit of time selling off on Ebay as I was somewhat trading mass of Fiat parts for road racing bicycle parts. A series of harsh life experiences interspersed with a slowly increasing number of points of joy & recovery found me maybe 3-4 years ago thinking all of sudden, "hey, I know the Fiat twin cams & yeah I love them...but I want to have a play with some SOHC cars." Go figure. So, in rather short order, I found a slightly derelict (and very glitterily painted) '85 Bertone in town, shortly afterward got wonderfully lucky to pick up Carl's 128 wagon and then (must be the circle of life) my old business partner & I worked out a deal for me to get his rather hot rodded '79 X1/9 that was mostly his "ultimate" X1/9 rebuilt circa 2000 with the best stuff snagged from our inventory + some extras...European head, hot cam, header, custom coilovers, blah blah blah, but also about 2-3' of flood damage and another 4-5 years of sitting in the corner of a shop...the perfect rescue! Anyway, the wonderful end of this rambling bore of a story is that after all that time, residual knowledge is finally being applied and I am thoroughly enjoying my X1/9s. I never thought of them as a "baby" anything, nor as anything other than a wonderfully designed car that feels perfect to drive and is forever impossible to believe an early 1970s design (I mean, it does not feel like an early '70s anything).