XXX1/9 Build (Update 11/17)

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  1. Kurt

    Kurt Daily Driver

    Location:
    Traverse City, MI
    *I will be updating this post with new pictures*

    New to the forums not new to X1/9's. I'm posting a build my father has been working on the past couple years.
    Him and his brother used to race them a while ago and we have always had some parts X1/9's in the backyard.

    A few years ago we took one of those parts fiats and took a sawzall and chopped the front off just forward of the firewall and chopped the back off just behind the firewall.

    That was the shell for the build. Power plant is a 4cyl ecotec supercharged out of a cobalt SS with a tune I think it's around 300hp.

    My father was a fabricator for Roush racing and used this exact motor in some of their fwd drag cars, with different internals, cai, and other mods they can get close to 1000hp from it.

    He did all this work himself, fabricating complete rollbars inside and all custom suspension front and rear. He is hoping to get it running this winter. Should be slightly quick :) Here are some pics!


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    Front Clip
    Steering Rack is from a Cobalt, they use EPS which means the rack is all mechanical. Placeholder where the Penske Dampers will be. the front suspension is based off of an old Trans AM car (recycled parts from when my dad was a fabricator for a top Trans AM team). Front spindles are stock Fiat 124 with modifications to increase height and take the NASCAR brake rotors (custom machined billet hubs).


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    Drivers Side Front
    Door bar will have an X, the lower fixed portion (not shown) will be to the rear of the door, and there's a removeable bar that will connect near the bottom of the A pillar, which is not structural itself. There is a roll bar but no 'halo bar'


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    Drivers Side Rear
    Body work here is all for mock up, the finished product will use the standard X1/9 dallara fender flares, all in fiberglass.



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    Rear Clip
    Cobalt SS engine, reliable, easy dry sump kit (tank goes behind driver, fuel tank behind passenger) He used the front spindles from the Cobalt in the rear, with new suspension mounts, as well as NASCAR Speedway brake rotors all around. He is working on a second engine that is turbocharged, he wants to be able to drive to the drag strip on a gasoline cal (≈450hp), switch to methanol, change injectors and calibration, and run with ≈1000 hp.

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    cockpit
    The structure here is minimal, to save weight, and because all the paneling will act like a monocoque. Seat belt bar is twp pieces crhomoly plus the standard structure. The back panels will be 1/2" honeycomb and bonded in to replace the sheet steel originals.


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    Cockpit Rough
    Rough in of the cockpit, the later images show the panels put in here, but overall everything is really spartan. The dead pedal is stock X1/9, plus some 'speed holes' my dad added.

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    Main floor
    The underbody is a piece of CF and Aluminum Honeycomb, 1/2" thick and bonded / riveted to the bottom of the cabin. My dad is a master craftsman, I'm in awe of the riveting and finish work he's been doing.



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    Floor Detail
    Amazing.


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    Cabin
    The interior on this is going to be really spartan, with nothing but the bare essentials. The fit and finish is amazing IMO and it's not even completed yet.



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    Center Console
    The shifter is an aftermarket kit, but uses the standard shift cables from the OE engine. There is a reverse lock out in red. The top cover panel isn't made yet, but will extend between the seats.


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    Console Detail
    Cherry-Q rivets are 700lb in shear, good thing there's a lot of them on the seatbelt.


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    Passenger Seat


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    Engien Bay Forward
    The engine bay / Firewall. The coolant lines run through the tunnel to a fron mounted radiator which will have a waterfall through the hood. Driver's seat back is not removable but passenger seat is to access the fuel tank and starter. My dad decided he wanted to use the stock fly-by-wire throttle, so he mounted the stock throttle mechanism behind the driver's seat, and ran a cable from the X1/9 pedal back to it. He added an adjustable ratio and a teflon guide.


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    Seatbelt Mount
    Detail of the seatbelt mount, there is a full doubler, as well as a steel backing plate. Someone asked about it being strong enough, and I think this shows that it might be.


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    Rear Suspension

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    Front Suspension

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    New Intake location for the supercharger and mass air sensor, mid engine doesn't need an air filter stuffed down below like a FWD

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    Custom tank

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    Fuel tank behind driver's seat and modified intake location

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    view facing rearward from the passenger's seat, Dry sump reservior on the left, just enough room for hte battery on the floor

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    another angle of the dry sump reservior and intercooler


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    Custom dry sump pickup and routing

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    With roof


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    Last edited: Aug 27, 2018
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  2. autox19

    autox19 True Classic

    Location:
    East Lansing, Mi
    Welcome Fellow Michigander!!! That look pretty sweet!!!!

    Odie
     
  3. kmead

    kmead True Classic

    Location:
    Michigan
    Slightly quick indeed.

    There is another member who has put one of these engines into a “standard” X for the street.

    Nice motor.

    Quite an amazing car.

    Shows what is possible when you toss off all the self restrictions.

    Is this still in Michigan? Would be interesting to have a get together as there are two Fiat club chapter in MI, one on the west side and the other on the east side.

    Welcome and thanks for sharing and amazing ride.
     
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  4. Rupunzell

    Rupunzell Bernice Loui

    Location:
    California
    Proper and about time some one did this.

    -Will the moto media notice, will they care?


    Bernice
     
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  5. Mechanogeek

    Mechanogeek True Classic

    Location:
    Jacksonville, FL
    Awesome build. I love go-Karts! We will all be watching, and encouraging, as you progress and hopefully post more pictures. Right off the bat, I really like what you did with the pedal assembly. Is that from a different vehicle or sourced from a race parts builder?
     
  6. Kurt

    Kurt Daily Driver

    Location:
    Traverse City, MI
    This is all of my fathers doing but I will try to answer any questions!

    Yes it's currently in Frankfort, MI (tip of the pinkie for those that aren't familiar). We have a street 1500 mostly stock X1/9 there along with this. It will be licensed and street legal (since no inspections at all in MI).

    We went to the fiat freak out maybe 7 years ago with the now 1500.

    I'm not positive on the pedal assembly.
     
  7. Kurt

    Kurt Daily Driver

    Location:
    Traverse City, MI
    And yes this is a proper build, my father has a passion for this along with the knowledge and correct tools.

    Written in sharpie on the b pillar says something along the lines of "cut no corners"
     
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  8. X1/9Cruiser

    X1/9Cruiser True Classic

    There are some amazing builds going on right now and others planned but this may take the cake!
     
  9. Kurt

    Kurt Daily Driver

    Location:
    Traverse City, MI
    Thanks, it really is done right. He isn't holding back anywhere.

    Crazy build by a crazy old man! Only person crazier is whoever jumps behind the wheel!
     
  10. AKimball92

    AKimball92 True Classic

    do the photo links work for everyone else?
     
  11. Dr.Jeff

    Dr.Jeff True Classic

    Location:
    Sin City
    Hi Kurt, welcome and thanks for joining the forum and for sharing your dad's project. Amazing build indeed, love it!
    Definitely post as many details and progress photos as you can. I respect your dad's skills.

    You will find the members here tend to have slightly different views about stock, original X1/9's vs highly modified, custom projects. But everyone is a fan of the X and will welcome your participation.


    [Andrew, the pics work for me]
     
  12. Kurt

    Kurt Daily Driver

    Location:
    Traverse City, MI
    Thanks for the welcome!

    Main plans I know so far are to have fiberglass door shells and fiberglass front and rear ends. Obviously wide flares to fit the tires. Also will have ducts for air behind the front tires and a single large scoop for air to the engine.

    I believe he was going to have the option to bypass the muffler for the track and option to use it for the street.

    Any questions I'll try to answer!
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2018
  13. autox19

    autox19 True Classic

    Location:
    East Lansing, Mi
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  14. Dr.Jeff

    Dr.Jeff True Classic

    Location:
    Sin City
    Kurt, it looks like the entire Cobalt/Ecotec drivetrain is being used - including axles, uprights/hubs, brakes, etc?

    Does your dad make sketches of what he is planning, or is he like me and does everything from his head? If there are any images of what the body will look like we would enjoy seeing it. Thanks

    Autox19, took me a moment to determine what the hell you were showing there (I'm not from MI).
     
  15. dragonsgate

    dragonsgate True Classic

    Location:
    arkansas
    I too think it is a great build. I have spent some time looking over the all to few pictures you posted and it makes me very humble when I think of the piddly stuff I had the nerve to call modification. I take it you are going to hang X19 fenders on it and you already have the steering wheel and I guess you have to put it in some category but I still can't get around the question, at what point is it no longer a Fiat?
    This applies to any other make of automobile that is radically modified.
    I often ask this about my own car as it has a different motor that Fiat.
     
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  16. Dr.Jeff

    Dr.Jeff True Classic

    Location:
    Sin City
    Some might argue that is a good thing. :D
     
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  17. autox19

    autox19 True Classic

    Location:
    East Lansing, Mi
    better?
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  18. JimD

    JimD Waiting for Godot... Moderator

    Location:
    Missouri, USA
    That's a big f'n hand!! You know what they say about a man with big hands... "He needs big gloves". :D:p
     
  19. Kurt

    Kurt Daily Driver

    Location:
    Traverse City, MI
    Good questions! It really won't be much of a fiat other than the exterior. Not sure what he is planning for the interior, I'm guessing he will put the x1/9 dash in though.

    It does pretty much have all the cobalt stuff, trans axles and front steering rack too I believe. All the control arms are completely custom from sheet metal or tubing.

    It pretty much is a race car built around the fiat shell.

    Keep the questions coming!
     
  20. MikeHynes

    MikeHynes True Classic

    Location:
    Goodfield, IL.
    Where do you intend to race it? You're not far from Grattan.
     
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