SOHC Performance Engine Building Kits

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Steve Cecchele
Kit A. 1300 Street

All the major parts you need to build an approx 10:1 static C/R street performance 1300. Basically the 'Euro' Spec 1300 but combining the early euro cam with the later combustion chamber style cylinder head. Add in a bump to the static compression ratio with the Mondial Pistons and improve the breathing with a fully tuneable 36DCNVA carb...it's now well above the stock 1300's 75hp rating...2 kits available.

1 x New in the box OE 1300 Euro cylinder head. Complete fitted with new OE valves, springs, collets, retainers, springs seats, spring shim (x 8) Fiat part number 5881861. 36/31 valve sizes


1 x Cam. New Pittatore B22 cam. (1300 euro 24/68 64/28 9.75mm lift)

1 x NOS 36DCNVA carb, modified euro 1300 X19 manifold and phenolic spacer kit.


1 x Set Mondial 8551 pistons 87.00 size 35.3CH 1.6mm dome. incl rings, pins, clips.

1 x Engine gasket kit, Hi Quality Italian OEM or OE gaskets.

Kit A price $2200au plus shipping worldwide

Kit B. 1500 Sportsman.

All the major parts you need to build a more track performance oriented 1500 sohc. The combination of a Tipo BVH, High Compression Mondial pistons, a modified 1500 euro inlet manifold to suit your choice of DCNF* and a new Pittatore 33/73 9.4 lift cam make this a well rounded top end street and track day engine. 2 kits available.
(*40 or 42 dcnf carb available at extra cost)

Kit B contains.

1 x New in the box Tipo cylinder head. (chinese manufacture) Comes complete with new TRW valves, new OE valve springs, collets, retainers, springs seats, spring shim (x 8) 39.6/31 valve sizes




1 x Set Mondial 8551 pistons 87.00 size 35.3CH 1.6mm dome. incl rings, pins, clips. Pistons have been flycut to suit the larger inlet. Pins supplied are Ross lightweight.

1 x Cam. new Pittatore 33/77 9.40 (B22/12B) cam.

1 x (bare) DCNF modified 1500 euro inlet manifold.
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1 x Engine gasket kit, Hi Quality Italian OEM or OE gaskets.

1 x ARP head stud kit (10 or 14 bolt M10 fasteners) and tension tool.

1 x tipo/x19 thermostat adaptor.

Kit B price $3000au plus shipping worldwide


Kit C. 1600 Performance.

All the major parts you need to build a strong and torquey 1600 sohc. 1 Kit available.

1 x New in the box Tipo cylinder head. (chinese manufacture) Comes complete with new TRW valves, new OE valve springs, collets, retainers, springs seats, spring shim (x 8) 39.6/31 valve sizes


1 x Set Mahle 0872 pistons 87.00 size 34.15CH incl rings, pins, clips. Pistons have been flycut to suit the larger inlet. Pins supplied are Ross lightweight.


! x Crank. 67.4mm crank standard (used) supplied checked and either polished standard or ground 10 thou under, supplied with main and big end bearing sets.

1 x Cam. new Pittatore 40/80 9.7lift (B22/5) cam.

1 x (bare*) DCNF modified 1500 euro inlet manifold.
sohc_dcnf_manifolds.jpg


1 x Engine gasket kit, Hi Quality Italian OEM or OE gaskets.

1 x ARP head stud kit (10 or 14 bolt M10 fasteners) and tension tool.

1 x tipo/x19 thermostat adaptor.

Kit C price $3800au plus shipping worldwide
(*42 or 44 dcnf carb available at extra cost)

Hi Compression Pistons are available separately.

OEM Mondial brand piston sets, 35.3mm Compression Height and have a 1.6mm raised dome. 86.8 and 87.0 oversizes only. Set of 4 pistons, rings, pins and clips.

Also available in 86.4mm (std for 1500 or 0.4mm oversize for early 1300)

Theoretical static CR in a 1500.

A basic compression ratio calculation looks like this:

Volume at BDC is (swept volume - pop up volume - dome )+ flycut volume + ring land clearance volume + gasket volume + chamber volume.

Volume at TDC is (volume in gasket - pop up - dome) + flycut volume + ring land clearance volume + chamber volume.

Volume of BDC over Volume at TDC is expressed as a ratio to one (xx:1)

Assume bore is 87.00
These Pistons are 86.50 above the top ring land and the top ring groove is 9mm down from the crown.
The Valve Flycut volume is approx 1.0cc
The Piston sits at approx 0.3mm plus deck
The dome is 1.6mm high, has a diameter of 70mm, and is 35mm wide (half a circle)
The Nominal Combustion Chamber volume is 33cc (euro 1500 carb)
Your head gasket is going to be 1.5mm compressed and has an inside fire ring diameter of 87.2mm (Fel-pro) and will give a SQ clearance of 1.2mm

So let's do some math...

Swept Volume of the cylinder.
Pi x R squared x Stroke
3.14285 x (43.5 x 43.5) x 63.9
3.14285 x 1892.25 x 63.9
380.017cc

Volume of the piston 'pop up'
3.14285 x (43.25 x 43.25) x 0.3
3.14285 x 1870.5625 x 0.3
1.765cc

Volume of the dome.
[3.14285 x (35 x 35) x 1.6] / 2
[3.14285 x 1225 x 1.6] / 2
3.08cc

Volume of the head gasket.
3.14285 x (43.6 x 43.6) x 1.5
3.14285 x 1900.96 x 1.5
8.96cc

Volume of the ring land clearance.
[3.14285 x (43.5 x 43.5) x 9] - [3.14285 x (43.25 x 43.25) x 9]
[3.14285 x 1892.25 x 9] - [3.14285 x 1870.5625 x 9]
53.62cc - 52.91cc
0.71cc

and then put these numbers into the equation,

Volume at BDC = (380.017 - 1.765 - 3.08) + 1 + 0.71 + 8.96 + 33
= 418.995

Volume at TDC = (8.96 - 1.765 - 3.08) + 1 + 0.71 + 33
= 38.825

V at BDC / V at TDC = 10.8:1 (10.79)

If fitted to a North American Spec engine with the 1.5mm full circular decompression recess in the head, we substitute the 33cc chamber volume for 38cc, so simply add 5 cc to the BDC/TDC volumes

423.995 / 43.825 = 9.67:1 with absolutely no changes to the cylinder head, up from the standard 8.5:1.

Even higher if you substitute a thinner head gasket (1.2 crushed = 1.79cc less volume)
422.205 / 42.035 = 10.04:1

That's 10:1 with no other changes... no block decking, no head skimming, no loss of belt tension, no cam timing issues.

Theoretical Static Compression ratio in a 1300 (euro head)

Assume bore is 87.00
These Pistons are 86.50 above the top ring land and the top ring groove is 9mm down from the crown.
The Valve Flycut volume is approx 1.0cc
The Piston sits at approx 0.3mm plus deck
The dome is 1.6mm high, has a diameter of 70mm, and is 35mm wide (half a circle)
The Nominal Combustion Chamber volume is 33cc (euro 1500 carb)
Your head gasket is going to be 1.2mm compressed and has an inside fire ring diameter of 87.2mm and will give a SQ clearance of 0.9mm

So let's do some math...

Swept Volume of the cylinder.
Pi x R squared x Stroke
3.14285 x (43.5 x 43.5) x 55.5
3.14285 x 1892.25 x 55.5
330cc

Volume of the piston 'pop up'
3.14285 x (43.25 x 43.25) x 0.3
3.14285 x 1870.5625 x 0.3
1.765cc

Volume of the dome.
[3.14285 x (35 x 35) x 1.6] / 2
[3.14285 x 1225 x 1.6] / 2
3.08cc

Volume of the head gasket.
3.14285 x (43.6 x 43.6) x 1.2
3.14285 x 1900.96 x 1.2
7.17cc

Volume of the ring land clearance.
[3.14285 x (43.5 x 43.5) x 9] - [3.14285 x (43.25 x 43.25) x 9]
[3.14285 x 1892.25 x 9] - [3.14285 x 1870.5625 x 9]
53.62cc - 52.91cc
0.71cc

and then put these numbers into the equation,

Volume at BDC = (330 - 1.765 - 3.08) + 1 + 0.71 + 7.17 + 33
= 367.035
Volume at TDC = (7.17 - 1.765 - 3.08) + 1 + 0.71 + 33
= 36.955

V at BDC / V at TDC = 9.9:1




These are NOS but obsolete stock, and this style of piston is no longer made.
Once sold out, that's it, no more available.





Limited quantity. $500au plus postage per set.


Brand new Tipo style heads. (14 bolt)

Fitted with LPG compatible valve seat inserts and cast iron guides. 39.5mm inlet valve size, 35.5mm seat throat size. 31.0mm exhaust valve head size, 27.0mm exhaust seat throat size. Inlet port size 28.5/29.0 and exhaust port size 27.5mm.

I've flow tested one and the results were pretty good for a straight out of the box head. Figures are at 28" of H2O

Inlet
0.050 30.4cfm
0.100 60.6cfm
0.150 77.8cfm
0.200 95.7cfm
0.250 106.6cfm
0.300 118.8cfm
0.350 121.9cfm
0.400 124.0cfm

Exhaust
0.050 25.8cfm
0.100 41.2cfm
0.150 56.0cfm
0.200 70.6cfm
0.250 82.3cfm
0.300 86.1cfm
0.350 87.8cfm
0.400 88.1cfm

Port air speed numbers were good as well. I've only taken measurements at 200thou and 400thou, but my flow bench plots a port speed profile across 9 points (8 points around the circumference and one right in the centre) using a pitot tube. At 200thou the 9 points range between 249 and 261 feet/sec, at 400thou the range is between 317 and 335 feet/sec...which is very good for an untouched port.

Now these numbers are with "as supplied" seat cuts, nothing fancy...so some improvement could be had simply by altering the seat cut to a narrower sealing face, at the moment they're almost 3mm wide. Same with the valves I used for the flow test, straight out of the box TRW replacement valves, no backcut or profiling, so these are totally raw figures and my baseline for these heads.




The 14 bolt Tipo type heads can fit the stock x19 10 bolt block, after the four small holes are plugged, and the thermostat has an adaptor plate to allow fitment of the stock X19 thermostat housing. Bare cylinder head as shown $750au plus postage. Limited quantity.

I can also offer these as a complete modified head. Ported, oversized exhaust seat fitted, new modified TRW 39.5/33.5 valves, bronze guides, flow tested, modified combustion chambers, valve springs to suit your application. All new custom built head to suit your engine requirements. 140CFM inlet flow up to 160CFM inlet flow at 340FPS air speed.

Single DCNF manifolds

Bare manifolds modified to suit a single DCNF style carburettor, two manifolds available Euro 1300 type. Correct angle for an X19 so the carburettor will sit vertical. Limited quantity, bare manifolds $250au plus postage. LAST TWO AVAILABLE.




SteveC
 
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Well, of course now you offer a great kit...

...when I've got all my engine bits together. hahahahahahahaha

Steve, great options offered here mate. I'm very impressed. I imagine each of these could develop at least 75bhp/litre?

Great work!

Cheers,

Rob
 
Outstanding

Great program Steve!

Especially noteworthy and probably not to be duplicated by anyone is the use of almost all NEW parts.

What is the solution for connecting the heater hose when the Tipo head is used?
 
Hard to say... lots of variables... but if a stock euro 1300 has 75hp (assume a similar exhaust ie twin out manifold) then if we up the static cr from 9.2 to up around 9.9 10:1 ... that alone is worth around 5 / 6% hp/torque increase. The improved carb I would be guessing? but going from 22/22 venturis to maybe 28/28 venturis is a far bit of extra air the engine can breathe in. I guess we can have some real world numbers soon when wildwilly gets his engine running. Kit A is just about a clone for this spec (except for the 1500 head) so the results will be similar.

Same with the 1500/1600, right now I would be guessing...but I have one of each engine (similar spec) underway right now, so when they are running I'll let you know.

Ulix,

the tipo/x19 thermostat adaptor is thick enough to have a heater hose fitting plumbed in there, like the tipo/tempra has standard.

SteveC
 
Bump.

With the current exchange rate these are now even better value to customers in the USA.

1600 kit NLA.
 
Kit A

I've basically purchased Kit A with most of the parts coming from FiatFactory and others from elsewhere, but with his help. The engine is just about back together. My builder is now doing all the measuring for the shims, so we are very close. Once all is back together, I'll find a dyno shop and see how she measures up. I can't say enough positive about FiatFactory, he has been uber helpful and you can already see the knowledge. I just wish he lived closer so he could do the actual build for me. Once I get it all back together, there will be lots of posts and it will be great to get the dyno results. If you're thinking of doing something like this, just ordered it all and you won't be disappointed.
 
Hi there...I'm in Wales, in the United Kingdom...I've got a tipo BVH and tipo crank, already...Could you supply me with the pistons, to complete the 1602 conversion?

Paul
 
Bump.

With the current exchange rate these high compression piston sets work out about $375us plus postage (about $50us)

(currently hovering around 75us cents to 1au $)

SteveC
 
Higher compression (OEM) pistons, 36DCNVA kits with modified manifolds, complete Tipo (new) cylinder heads, complete engine kits...all available and all at excellent prices with the current exchange rate.

SteveC
 
expectations

Willy, do you mind telling us your HP expectations. :)
Thanks
 
Bill's engine

This is a bit more detailed account of Wildwilly's engine build...
http://diamondl.ca/fiatx19/X19/Fiat_X1_9/Fiat_X1_9.html

I don't think he is quite finished yet, but Bill has promised to get some real world RWHP numbers when he's setting up the carb.

Basically tho...

a 'stock' euro (early) had the best cam (24/68 64/28 9.75 gross lift) that a 1300 ever came with from the factory ... BUT ... it also had the early combustion chamber, and was rated at 75hp

a 'stock' (later) euro 1300 x19 had the much better later combustion chamber cylinder head...BUT it had a less duration / lower lift camshaft ... and was rated at 73hp.

Willy (Bill) has chosen the 'best' stock parts...so to the 75hp euro 1300 engine (in theory) he has 'added'...

1500 euro cam (24/68 64/28 9.9 lift) (a tiny bit more lift than that 1300 euro cam... but they are almost identical)

H/C OE pistons 35.3 CH and 1.6 dome (ends up with 9.9:1 static compression,up from the 9.2:1 of the euro 1300 and the 8.5:1 of the USA spec)

1500 euro cylinder head (no decompression recess like all the USA spec heads) and a bigger exhaust valve, bigger port size, bigger valve seat throat sizes on both valves compared to any 1300 x19 head

1500 twin out exhaust manifold, custom exhaust system of his design.

Inlet manifold modified for DCNF/DCNVA (euro 1500 intake manifold to start with, so biggest stock ports)

Carby upped to 36DCNVA which uses twin 28 chokes (simultaneous opening) compared to the 34DMTR (24/26 choke progressive) of the stock 85hp 1500, or the 22/22 of the 32DMTR variants found on the 1300 X19's

realistically I think Bill can expect.....75/80 hp at the wheels.(90/95 crank) with the tune he is after.

SteveC
 
HP

What Steve said:) The builder is getting the tranny back on the motor this week and we're hoping to start putting it in the car next week. A little info about the exhaust, its not really my idea. Dave (PA) sold his beautiful 79 last year (I should have bought that before someone else did!) was planning on another exhaust for his 1500 motor, so I bought the muffler from him. So the basic design is a 2-1 pipe from the manifold, then into a 2.5" muffler. The muffler in question is from a Lotus Elise with two exit pipes in the middle. Pictures are on the blog that Steve referenced. We're also going with electronic ignition and all sorts of other bits that are listed on the blog. Once its all back together, I will get her on the dyno to see how she performs. There will be lots of updates as we get closer. I'm really hoping to be able to drive the X by early to mid September and enjoy the fall weather.

PS. Can't thank Steve C enough for his help. I think its fair to say that if you're looking to modify your engine, Steve has the parts and more importantly, the knowledge to walk you through the process. He can help you take the engine to almost any level as he is more than willing to massage the parts to make them better than they are stock. Brilliant man for sure.
 
36DCNVA

Carby upped to 36DCNVA which uses twin 28 chokes (simultaneous opening) compared to the 34DMTR (24/26 choke progressive) of the stock 85hp 1500, or the 22/22 of the 32DMTR variants found on the 1300 X19's

You will be wanting to increase the size of the idle jets in that carb from the 40s that it comes with to 50s. Took me the best part of last winter to work that one out...

Dom.
 
Jets

Thanks Dom, I'll chat to my engine guy about this. He's supposed to be a carb-whisperer, so he should know exactly what to do about this. Going to see the car tomorrow and the progress over the last few weeks. really hoping to be driving by mid September. Cheers....
 
Aussie dollar just hit a new low against the greenback today... 66 cents buys you one Aussie dollar, so the exchange rate is about as good as it's ever going to get... makes these engine kits, bare Tipo cylinder heads, DCNF modified manifolds, DCNVA/manifold kits and high compression OE piston sets even better value for anyone stateside.

SteveC
 
All kits, lots of sets of pistons, more bare Tipo cylinder heads and a couple more modified manifolds all available.

SteveC
 
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Still have a couple of 1300 kits available (Kit A) as per description in the original post.

Still have enough parts to make up more Kit B's too... but no tipo/X19 thermostat adaptors available at the moment,and the TRW valves I haven't been able to source anymore...but I have equivalent in AE.

Sold two Kit C's, so no 1600 stroker kits available at the moment.
Waiting on more crankshafts and having some pistons modified to suit the extended stroke. These will be 33.5CH with a 1mm or 1.5mm raised dome section (a bit like the 8551 mondials) but with the inlet valve flycut enlarged to suit a 39.6 valve and Ross lightweight pins optional.

33.5mm CH will put the crown at zero deck, a 1mm dome is approx 2cc the 1.5mm dome is approx 3cc. Standard ring pack. Having 86.8, 87.0 and 87.4 made at 1mm dome and a few sets of 87.4 pistons made with 1.5mm domes.

Plenty of 8551 Mondial pistons (35,3 CH and 1,6 dome) in 87.0, also available with inlet flycuts enlarged to suit 39.6 valves.

PM or email if your interested.

fiatfactory at bigpond dot com

SteveC
 
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