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Jeff. In all seriousness. If you'rE an expert in 850s explain hoW these items are broken when I removed them with hand tools from the front bumper of an 850.
In your auction photos, I can see that the retainer nuts are not on one of the brackets, but instead on the end of the mounting screws sticking up through the top of the lamp. The other bracket has the nuts still welded to it, & the (remnants of the) 2 mounting screws still threaded into the nuts. Both of those screws have had the domed Phillips head sheared completely off (these are the 2 screws that are supposed to hold the whole lamp assembly together, as well as holding the mounting bracket in place on top of the lamp). Both lamps appear to have the head sheared off of at least one of the mounting screws on them, as well. See photos:
(you will also notice I am throwing in an extra bracket)
That's terrific & I already acknowledged that fact, but like I said before, that extra bracket is for the Reverse lamp,
not for these front turn-signal lights. It may fit on top of the left/front turn lamp itself, but the bracket does not mount correctly on/under the front bumper. That's WHY Fiat made the two front brackets in a different shape than this bracket. Compare them yourself; the Reverse lamp bracket vs. the left/front turn lamp bracket. They're shown right next to each other in one of your auction photos (see the top photo shown above this text).
And then also explain how they are not turn signal lights when that is what they are on the 68 model car. just like the one in red pictured.
I didn't say these
weren't turn-signal lights (in fact, I said they
were). Your auction text states "
These look just like the ones pictured on the red car". My reply was that this statement is
not true, due to the simple fact that the lights pictured on the red car are not the same type of lights as the ones you're selling. The red car has Series 2 Euro lights, you're selling Series 1 USA lights. They're not the same lights, nor do they look anything like each other.
Are you even looking at your own photos??? :confuse2:
Compare them yourself:
Series 2 Euro:
Series 1 USA:
Can you see
now that the lights you're selling are
not the same as on the red car? :wall:
If need be I will post the pic of the lights on the bumper.
No need to, I already know what they look like, both on & off the car, fully assembled or completely dismantled. I've had over 3 decades of hands-on experience with them. My cars, friends' cars, customer cars & junkyard cars...hundreds of them. I know what the :censored: I'm talking about, & I wouldn't be talking about them if I didn't.
And for your info I am using the word fog for key worD spamming to drive attention to the listing....Its hard to argue with success....
Except for that thing called "false advertising", or even simpler, dishonesty. Most people prefer to deal with an honest seller, but if doing otherwise suits you...well, good luck with that. As long as the item gets sold, right? :woot:
If someone can't sell Fiat parts on eBay without having to resort to "techniques" like keyword spamming, false hype, incorrect item description or showing a main listing photo of stupid crap other than the
item being sold (also known as AWS)...well, I'd hardly call that "success".
2c
Yeah, "It's not you, it's me...". :hug: