Plug 'n play window relay retrofit

tjc

Daily Driver
I know the subject of fixing the slow electric windows on the Scorpion has come up many times with many viable and smart solutions, but I have alternate method that I thought I'd share with the interested among us.

After studying the wiring diagram on my Scorpion and knowing that I had already installed an ignition relay for most of the switched loads on the vehicle (thereby reducing the need to run a dedicated power lead to the window motors themselves), I realized it was possible to install a relay pack to bypass the window switches fairly easily by just installing the relays as a jumper between the window switch connector (C31) located in back of the radio/HVAC console. Once I wire the kit up, it should be just plug and play.

So, I went about trying to source the components I needed. First, I needed to find some Fiat connectors, especially the 6 pin connector used in C31 (found them on ebaY). Then I sourced some 0.25" male and female spade connectors with tangs that will snap into the empty Fiat connectors (http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/250_Connectors/250_connectors.html). Finally, I sourced four Bosch style SPDT relays with plugs and pigtails (similar to these: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Relay-Harness-Bosch-Style-40AMP-HRNS/dp/B005HFYE1O/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1394410465&sr=1-1&keywords=relay"]AGT (5 Pack) 30/40 AMP Relay Harness Spdt 12V Bosch Style (40AMP-HRNS) : Amazon.com : Automotive[/ame]). Here is everything before I started...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1...140308_121852883_HDR_zpsbe70800d.jpg~original

The next step was to plan out the wiring diagram so the assembly would be an elementary task. I needed to figure out a way to wire up the relays so that I could just unplug the 6-pin connector and install this kit in between. I wanted to use the fused power from fuses 9 & 10 (i.e., the regular window fuses) to directly power the windows through these relays and just use the switches only to fire the relays. Here is the wiring diagram came up with and drew for all those interested with an online tool:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1...indow-relay-retrofit_zps446b4d7f.png~original

It was then time to crimp all the wires and install them into the connectors and put them all together...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1...140308_211131765_HDR_zps888f37b7.jpg~original

As for the results, I have to preface the following videos by saying that I captured the before and after window operation without starting the car (i.e., battery only) on a 32 degree day. The car had been sitting for several weeks without starting, but the battery was topped off with a trickle charager. Here's the before:
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/tjcu...ofit/Window_relay_before_zps7ae92359.mp4.html

And here's the after:
http://s2.photobucket.com/user/tjcu...rofit/Window_relay_after_zps1042bb91.mp4.html

Okay, so the after is still a bit slow and the driver's window is noisy (needs some lube), but both windows are noticeably faster by a few seconds both up and down. An improvement and a relief from possible switch damage from the high loads incurred from drawing direct power straight from the switch.
 
Very cool, thanks for posting!

Very cool, thanks for posting!

My car doesn't have power windows but probably will before I'm done, as the regulators are worn out. I have some power regulators that I can use.

I wonder how much of a difference running new dedicated power to the relays would make? You may want to try this.
 
Good job

Thank you for sharing the results of your success.
I did something similar to this for the X1/9 a while back. Here's a schematic of mine:
I used a couple of diodes so that I could simply insert it into the plug that attaches directly to the motor.
(between the harness and door motor wire) Just another idea for ya.

doormotorrelayssm.jpg
 
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