Can you not change the oil pump and leave the x pan? I know this is an old chat. I’m just asking for myselfI know the conversion from 1300 to 1500 motor is fairly simple. You use the 128 oil pan, pump and return pipe, flywheel and starter an it bolts right in. All the 1300 ancillaries such as distributor, intake and exhaust bolt right on even if the 1500 was originally fuel injected. I don't know if conversion from 1100 to 1500 is the same.
I just happened to do this, on accident. Put the engine in the 128 with the X pan on it for moving it. I have to tell you, it sits real low. Pretty much anything in the way will take out the pan. Not a good idea at all if you plan to actually drive it this way.you can use an X19 alloy sump on a 128, but you need to also use the X19 pump pickup, as the angles are the same and the pickup will sit level in the bottom of the sump...
of course this will have the bottom of the X19 pan sitting lower and not quite level to the ground, but that's not a problem... the issue is matching the pan and pickup together...and of course the x19 dipstick too so the level reads correctly
inlet manifold needs to be changed so the carby will sit level
flyheeel and 180mm clutch and four speed satrter motor required to fit the four speed transmission in the 128
SteveC
Yes but I can’t have the x19 oil pick up because the x19 engine is going in a 128. I have already changed my oil pick up from my old 128 engine so the angle is correct but I have left the x19 pan. Does the difference in the angle of the pump and the pan really have a bad effect?you can use an X19 alloy sump on a 128, but you need to also use the X19 pump pickup, as the angles are the same and the pickup will sit level in the bottom of the sump...
of course this will have the bottom of the X19 pan sitting lower and not quite level to the ground, but that's not a problem... the issue is matching the pan and pickup together...and of course the x19 dipstick too so the level reads correctly
inlet manifold needs to be changed so the carby will sit level
flyheeel and 180mm clutch and four speed satrter motor required to fit the four speed transmission in the 128
SteveC
I have a 128 sedan and 2 classic Mini's.. The only similarity is that they're both front wheel drive, and disc front rear drum brakes. They are both fun to drive but their personalities are pretty different. Nothing really handles quite like a Real Mini, (a BMW is not a Mini) it will always put a grin on your face. That being said, The 128 will scream though the canyons also, once a few mods are made. You really can't go wrong with either. I will say, the aftermarket for Mini parts is far and away superior to the Fiat. You can even still buy a brand new bodyshell for a mini....(Sadly, the only pic I had of my Mini on my phone is just of the engine...)Great discussion and information, thank you.
Anyone every drive on of these and a Mini to compare the two?