I have check angle and appears that is around 20° what is for 128, but we are making tool for remake this Abarth manifold, will be available soon in both angles and as original with water ports inside.I like it. Does it fix an X or a 128?
I also never seen, also on Google cant find any photo about this, because I ask here, maybe someone have more photos or/and infos.I have never seen it either.
None of the US publications of the day (Faza, Bayless. Etc) show it. Also, none of the german ones I have seen (Hörmann,...) do.
I would love to see Abarth catalogs or price lists of the early 70s to see if they show things like this.
I believe an Abarth cam for our motor once showed up as well.
Very good.we are making tool for remake this Abarth manifold, will be available soon in both angles and as original with water ports inside
Italy was very stong in 60s-80s in this aftermarket performance parts, who knows maybe is this manifold original Abarth ( I believe ) or someone made it and put Abarth lettering on it?I have a bunch of old FAZA sales literature from the late 60s and while they show many manifolds for dual DCNFs, none were listed as ABARTH. It seems everyone in Italy who could cast aluminum was making intake manifolds for Fiats. The only thing I could figure out is if a DCNF manifold had a vacuum port for power brakes then it was at least meant to be for a 128.
Yeah you are right about water passages, it was cca 20% difference in price of tool with or without passages and I decided to remade as original one, anyway I m pretty sure that this can be eliminated in casting proces that are casted without passages or better way just to close passages on cylinder headm what we do often.Very good.
Just my thoughts: For aftermarket "performance" intake manifolds, I've always thought it may be best to eliminate the water heating passages and make the manifold much cleaner/smaller/lighter. I have never known anyone with a twin-carb performance engine to want hot water around the intake system, and the water passages are always blocked off. So why not just eliminate all of that?
I agree. I was just expressing my personal preferences for 'custom' parts. Nice work Andreav.I alway like to keep original looking in this type of work, to have reproducion of original parts like when they was made in past.
There were some posts about it before. Here are links to two threads. The second is a guy in Greece that offers some unusual manifolds, including for single and dual IDF's.manifold for twin Weber IDA carbs, do someone see this in real?
Yes, sorry I misread your post and thought you said IDF. IDA are much bigger. Don't think I've ever seen that on a Fiat. I also have some old FAZA catalogs but have not looked at them in a very long time.IDF's but IDA
It didn't say what size chokes were in the IDAs but I would guess they are a whole lot smaller than 48 mm.Now that I see that old picture (from the FAZA stuff), it kind of does bring back vague memories of IDA's on Fiat's.
Wow, caption says two 48 IDA's on a 1116cc engine. Hard to imagine that would work.
I also think that are more oriented for racing purposes but who knows today how this will workYes, sorry I misread your post and thought you said IDF. IDA are much bigger. Don't think I've ever seen that on a Fiat. I also have some old FAZA catalogs but have not looked at them in a very long time.
Do you think IDA's might be too big for a 1.3/1.5 engine? Guess it also depends on the application; street or track.
Very good.
Just my thoughts: For aftermarket "performance" intake manifolds, I've always thought it may be best to eliminate the water heating passages and make the manifold much cleaner/smaller/lighter. I have never known anyone with a twin-carb performance engine to want hot water around the intake system, and the water passages are always blocked off. So why not just eliminate all of that?