Been setting up a new work space to get a little more serious. Been concentrating on getting all the equipment in and setup so can hit the ground running in the new year. Purchased two new Proper 3D scanners ( will be scanning the X Bay for the swap in Jan) Invested in a much better welder and plasma cutter all getting ready for the jump to CNC.
I was lucky enough to get a Prior limited edition body kit that celebrates 40 years of Audi in Ralley so was chasing down a car to star in that project. I will be doing a ton of CF bits for that project. Will have 4 projects on the go for 2021. X is still one of them. Will pull and refresh the 1.5 with rings, reseal etc. and while it is out Scan the bay and suspension geometry for the 5 cylinder swap.
Here is the Audi Coupe. It will be getting the same 5 cylinder as the X only this one will be 660hp.
I know this is intended to be an engine swap, but I get the sense that you've grown to love that little Lampredi sewing-machine motor... I'm going to make a bold prediction: this car will *not* end up swapped, but will end up with a beautiful, rebuilt and warmed-up 1.5L. (Though I'd love to hear the sound of a five-cylinder in an X, so I'll be excited to watch the build either way!)
Any pics of the Audi drivetrain? Curious about overall layout & dimensions. Pics are always better than a sheet of specs
If You wouldn't mind to share a file with scanned X19 bay how much would You ask for the file?
CAD files are not proprietary to anyone but you or possibly someone else if you farmed out the work. Generally if you paid for the files to be made they are your property unless otherwise stipulated in a contract/agreement. If it is IP then yes you can’t share but as it is just an engine bay of a car designed in 1972 with a quarter of a million made, not so much.I don't think I could share the CAD files but the Raw scans should not be an issue.
A couple of years ago I took a few motor measurements on my T5R and compared them to my old 1300 motor sitting in the basement. It was much larger in every dimension, which is not to say it could not be made to fit, but it would require a bit more study. I also figured if Hussein had not done it, there are probably some good reasons.I had a look at a Volvo V70 today and that 5 cyl looks like it could be fitted in a X. To me it seems like an easier swap than K20. Hussein, how come didn't you consider that as an option?
Because it may not be legal to share, did I understood correctly?I don't think I could share the CAD files but the Raw scans should not be an issue.
Converting raw scans to a reverse engineered usable CAD is a painstaking process. The scan is the relatively easy part just expensive equipment. Since this will be a swap kit being developed not sure I will be giving away the goods. The raw scan for sure.CAD files are not proprietary to anyone but you or possibly someone else if you farmed out the work. Generally if you paid for the files to be made they are your property unless otherwise stipulated in a contract/agreement. If it is IP then yes you can’t share but as it is just an engine bay of a car designed in 1972 with a quarter of a million made, not so much.
The CAD software is quite another matter.
Because it may not be legal to share, did I understood correctly?
If so I will do a search how can get that raw file into Solidworks
I had a look at a Volvo V70 today and that 5 cyl looks like it could be fitted in a X. To me it seems like an easier swap than K20. Hussein, how come didn't you consider that as an option?
A couple of years ago I took a few motor measurements on my T5R and compared them to my old 1300 motor sitting in the basement. It was much larger in every dimension, which is not to say it could not be made to fit, but it would require a bit more study. I also figured if Hussein had not done it, there are probably some good reasons.
Understand and wholly agree with that part (the proprietary changes and solutions for making things fit), giving away or making available the OE engine compartment would be a pretty decent thing to do and greatly appreciated by your other compatriots who are similarly insane. Like me who like to plan everything...Converting raw scans to a reverse engineered usable CAD is a painstaking process. The scan is the relatively easy part just expensive equipment. Since this will be a swap kit being developed not sure I will be giving away the goods. The raw scan for sure.
I had a look at a Volvo V70 today and that 5 cyl looks like it could be fitted in a X. To me it seems like an easier swap than K20. Hussein, how come didn't you consider that as an option?
Probably a different story here in Sweden. You can find an engine in relative good condition for 200--300 USD here. I heard about one guy that put the 4cyl V40 T4 in a X but that engine is shorter and is probably a less complex swap. But the sound from the 5cyl is hard to beat, and the tuning possibilities.Higher cost of engine & tuning parts.
Probably a different story here in Sweden. You can find an engine in relative good condition for 200--300 USD here. I heard about one guy that put the 4cyl V40 T4 in a X but that engine is shorter and is probably a less complex swap. But the sound from the 5cyl is hard to beat, and the tuning possibilities.
I agree with the others, any proprietary designs that you wish to develop yourself (e.g. engine swap kit) should be protected (i.e. not openly shared). However the standard Fiat X1/9 engine bay is a different situation. It is not proprietary to any of us. Fiat may have restrictions on copying it, but that's not what we're talking about. I understand the scanning equipment was expensive, and your time to do the scanning has value. But those are costs that you are undertaking as part of your development project. So sharing the basic dimensions/scan data for the stock engine bay would not impact that. Your choice obviously but I really don't get the point, as it would not have any relation to anything you develop to put in the bay. Just my view on it, and to be clear I have no interest in any of the data. If I've misunderstood something here please correct me. Great project either way.Converting raw scans to a reverse engineered usable CAD is a painstaking process. The scan is the relatively easy part just expensive equipment. Since this will be a swap kit being developed not sure I will be giving away the goods. The raw scan for sure.