I just realized why you might have been thinking this. In a earlier post (#131) regarding the first unit you had, I made the comment: "I hate to say it but this looks a lot like the crappy ones I tried a few years ago." That was poorly worded, I did not literally mean it "looks like" as much as it "seems like". Speaking generally about the overall quality of the unit. But no, as I stated the ones I tried were not full DIN size. So yours are not really the same type that I played with. However from what you found with your first one it was about as good as the ones I tried. Hopefully your second one is better, let me know what you find.Is this the type you said you played around with some years ago?