Torque suppressor

Lowtechprime said:
I would certainly think so. It's essentially the same setup, just in front. Anything to stop the engine moving around under load I think would be a benefit. Between my urethane top steady and three more points of attachment, I don't think I'll be tearing any mounts soon or breaking the exhaust manifold..... That extra left side trans mount is essentially solid, there's a urethane bushing there for noise, but it's basically just a 14mm ARP bolt into the frame rail so it really can't flex at all... I like Jeff's idea of filling in the standard mounts, certainly easier than making a new solid bushing from scratch..👍🏼
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Good thoughts I agree with your analysis. I've driven the X once with the suppressor and it does seem to improve the instant response nature of throttle tip in. As you say a 128 is pretty much identical just relocated driveline, so it ought to help in the regard just mentioned, and also from Steve's earlier post regarding transaxle preservation, both of which I am interested in improving.
 
I used to race a guy who drove an early 80's ford festiva. Fast as hell on a shoestring budget. Anyways, he would drive the the race, pop the hood and use a cable and shackle from the front frame to the front of the engine. Basically tying the engine down. Worked like a champ.
 
fastx19 said:
I used to race a guy who drove an early 80's ford festiva. Fast as hell on a shoestring budget. Anyways, he would drive the the race, pop the hood and use a cable and shackle from the front frame to the front of the engine. Basically tying the engine down. Worked like a champ.
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I've seen similar to that with other FWD cars for track use. Basically solid mounts all around, including a beefy torque strut directly to the engine.

I seem to recall the Festiva was one of those cars that were easily engine swapped with another models engine? Cheap hot rod.
 
Dr.Jeff said:
Is there a thread where you described the added mounts on your 128?
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Pretty sure it's here, post#4:

Strada transmission in a 128

I just realized the Strada transmission (Ritmo in Europe) has a different lower engine/transmission mount than the standard 128 4 speed. Has anyone put a Strada 5 speed transmission in their 128? If so how did you make the 128 mount fit the Strada transmission? The Strada transmission case is...
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And here for the poly bush Dog bone conversion:

"Dog-bone" [engine torque strut] rebuild...updated with new content

Here's how I do it... I use an SPF020 bush. This is the GREY bush shown in the pic. SPF021 is the green bush, the yellow and blue bushes are both spf155's but the yellow is old production, the blue is new production and duro 70 rated supplied with the steel sleeve. I've done this a few times...
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Lowtechprime said:
Pretty sure it's here, post#4:

Strada transmission in a 128

I just realized the Strada transmission (Ritmo in Europe) has a different lower engine/transmission mount than the standard 128 4 speed. Has anyone put a Strada 5 speed transmission in their 128? If so how did you make the 128 mount fit the Strada transmission? The Strada transmission case is...
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Thanks. So this statement: "Since that trans had a left side mount, I added a tab to the left unibody rail with a captive nut welded in and used a urethane bushing and an ARP 14mm bolt", corresponds with this pic?:
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I'd forgotten you used a Strada trans, so back in post #17 (in this thread) when you said "My engine/trans assembly is supported at both sides, so the center mount isn't really doing much" threw me off at first. I was hoping for a clever idea to add a extra mount to the X/128 trans. 😄 A long time ago we discussed various thoughts about redesigning and/or adding different mounts.
 
Yes, that pic plus one from underneath. That's before the weld got cleaned up and painted (hard to weld upside down, damn gravity...)
It's actually a South American Regatta trans, but I think they are the same.
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This was that mount before welding to the rail...
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Dr.Jeff said:
Thanks. So this statement: "Since that trans had a left side mount, I added a tab to the left unibody rail with a captive nut welded in and used a urethane bushing and an ARP 14mm bolt", corresponds with this pic?:
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I'd forgotten you used a Strada trans, so back in post #17 (in this thread) when you said "My engine/trans assembly is supported at both sides, so the center mount isn't really doing much" threw me off at first. I was hoping for a clever idea to add a extra mount to the X/128 trans. 😄 A long time ago we discussed various thoughts about redesigning and/or adding different mounts.
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I would think you could make a flange similar to the Regatta/Strada out of plate, either steel or aluminum, bolted to the outside edge of the case with slightly longer bolts. Then a similar one to mine on the frame if it's a 128. I'm not familiar with the clearances in an X/19, but I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to come up with something suitable... Should only take 1 or 2 afternoons...?.🤔
 
Driving report after second run in the X with torque suppressor. I do observe slightly greater vibration at the steering wheel a medium speeds off throttle. So with lower revs, the frequency of the motor running seems to translate to some vibration.

I'd conclude it's a good tradeoff, the crisper immediate torque response and preservation of the transaxle.

Next, I will modify another crossmember for the 128 wagon, just spoke to the machinist on the 1600 engine build.
 
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